Hi Daniel, I just discovered you and listened to your talks for about 3 hours. WoW!!! So inspiring, thank you. I worked as a body-centered therapist, without an official licence for 20 years. In The Netherlands, where I\'m from, that was possible. I do have a degree from artschool, I am an artist and a dancer. That makes sense to you, I think. Ok, although I agree with you on many aspects, I also think it\'s important to have theoretical knowledge. Like: Alice Miller, Yrvin Yalom e.o. I studied, by myself and did \'the inner work\', through reading and workshops. One way of working with people I love is \"Hakomi, body-centered psychotherapy\" founded by Ron Kurtz. I recognise a lot in what you\'re saying in what I learned from him. Especialy: the abbility from the client to heal him- or herself, the healing relationship, and to be able as a therapist to be in a state of loving presence. Do you know \"Hakomi\"? And I wonderd, listening to you, did you, yourself, do any bodywork? I met so many people I worked with who had therapy for a long time, but only talking and in the end that was not enough. What they needed and wanted, although it was very unusual,to work with their body; start breathing, moving like they wanted to, permission to be angry and kick some pillows, touching, etc. I realy would like to know your point of view on this. Greatings, Saskia